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« Reply #13 Yesterday at 13:10 »
JG G36C low chrono, stock 295fps. Upgraded Guarder FTK with sp130, eg1000 9.6v batt, same low chrono 315fps. Need help. Target is 450FPS
« Reply #15 Today at 11:24 »
the biggest trouble when it comes to upgrading G36C is the hop- up chamber. unlike the hop-up chambers of M4 & AK series, this one has a two piece chamber which leaks out most of the compressed air from the piston. there's a a gap between the magazine chamber and the hop-up, and another gap between the hop-up chamber and the gearbox
i've been through a lot of hell before I reached 480 fps with my G36C using SP140 good thing that was my only AEG at that time, so I have no choice but to be patient and think of all kinds of modifications to address the issue of air leaks.
tip: seal all possible air leak points in the hop-up chamber, it may look awfully like a mummy inside but it will pay off. just be patient ;D
« Reply #16 Today at 12:25 »
thanks sa reply sir, try ko ung tip mo. Sugest di, pano tanggalin yung inner barrel with hop-up, the easier way. Kasi sinubukan kong tanggalin, parang kailangan ko yatang tanggalin lahat ng screws para makuha yung barrel and hop-up. May g36c na star din ako, pero nakita kong tinanggal yung barrel, wala namang screws, parang pagtanggal lang ng barrel gaya ng M4A1. Check ko kagabi yung pagkalagay ko ng upgrades, piston, nozzle,etc, pero wala naman air leaks, lahatnaka concentrate palabas ng air nozzle. Tama ka nga siguro, air compession, kasi nung original guarder air nozzle yung gamit sana, parang maikli kumpara sa stock. Tumutulo lang yung BBs, di dinudura. Kilangan ba palitan ko yung hop up rubber ko o seal ko lang talaga? May maikling gap kaya dun sa dulo ng air nozzle at inner barrel? Maay site o link ka bang pwedeng reference pano seal ang possible air leaks? Salamat
« Reply #17 Today at 13:46 »
tanggalin mo muna yung 3 screws sa sides ng forward receiver. then pwede mo nang hilain yung outer barrel assembly (kasama na dun yung hop-up chamber), wala nang lock yun, wire lang ang nka kabit. if you noticed, may spring dun sa chamber, itulak mo siya den twist mo (clockwise or counter, di ko maalala) pwede mo na hilain ang hop-up chamber kasama ang inner barrel ;D
now let's go to the gearbox. basta's sure ka sa shimmings na free gumalaw ang gears and sa cylinder na walang leaks habang tinitulak ng piston ang piston head, ok na yun. minimal na ang leaks dun kung meron man. gamit ka nga pala ng nozzle na same ng length sa original nozzle.
our concern now would be the air coming out of the nozzle. buo yung hangin from nozzle pero kumakalat cya pagdating sa hop-up chamber dahil maraming mga gaps. instead na sa bala ang concentration nya, kumakalat siya sa mga gaps.
what i did was, may sinira akong isang hop-up chamber ng AK47(courtesy of Arbab, hehe). minodify ko & dinugtong sa G36 chamber and binalot ko lahat ng possible escapes ng hangin. hehe.. the objective is to fill in all the gaps para sa bala ang concentration ng hangin.
no need to change the hop-up bucking, unless you want to install S140 spring and higher. otherwise, the stock rubber would do.
di ko na try maghanap ng sites about G36. basta's binaklas ko na lang cya & pinag aralan kung paano pagalingin ang nag iisang bangski ko at that time. hehe. ;D
« Last Edit: Today at 16:26 by TiBor »
« Reply #18 Today at 14:00 »
copy sir, salamat sa advice. Try ko mamaya pag uwi, bili na rin ako ng white tape na gamit pagdugtong ng tubo sa tubig. Parang yun yung nakita ko ginamit pang seal dun dati sa isang g36cko sa pinas. Dito kasi ako na nag kusang nag upgrade, more ontrial and error, tapos expert suggestions na rin gaaling sa inyo. Salamat nga pala uli sir tibor, Ronald nga pala (ICECUBE) commandos-abudhabi. Share ko uli dito kung ano progress tapos kung paglaruan uli yung bengski ko.
« Reply #19 Today at 16:23 »
This was the discussion placed by IceCube at the wrong Thread.
No PUN Intended:
Kindly be noted that we have proper place for any queries... It seems that you haven't read the R&R of A.R.M.A.S. Forum, but since the Moderators of A.R.M.A.S. was generous enough to share the info, I allowed it to be kept and all the details are below.
« Reply #13 Yesterday at 13:10 »
JG G36C low chrono, stock 295fps. Upgraded Guarder FTK with sp130, eg1000 9.6v batt, same low chrono 315fps. Need help. Target is 450FPS
« Reply #15 Today at 11:24 »
the biggest trouble when it comes to upgrading G36C is the hop- up chamber. unlike the hop-up chambers of M4 & AK series, this one has a two piece chamber which leaks out most of the compressed air from the piston. there's a a gap between the magazine chamber and the hop-up, and another gap between the hop-up chamber and the gearbox
i've been through a lot of hell before I reached 480 fps with my G36C using SP140 good thing that was my only AEG at that time, so I have no choice but to be patient and think of all kinds of modifications to address the issue of air leaks.
tip: seal all possible air leak points in the hop-up chamber, it may look awfully like a mummy inside but it will pay off. just be patient ;D
« Reply #16 Today at 12:25 »
thanks sa reply sir, try ko ung tip mo. Sugest di, pano tanggalin yung inner barrel with hop-up, the easier way. Kasi sinubukan kong tanggalin, parang kailangan ko yatang tanggalin lahat ng screws para makuha yung barrel and hop-up. May g36c na star din ako, pero nakita kong tinanggal yung barrel, wala namang screws, parang pagtanggal lang ng barrel gaya ng M4A1. Check ko kagabi yung pagkalagay ko ng upgrades, piston, nozzle,etc, pero wala naman air leaks, lahatnaka concentrate palabas ng air nozzle. Tama ka nga siguro, air compession, kasi nung original guarder air nozzle yung gamit sana, parang maikli kumpara sa stock. Tumutulo lang yung BBs, di dinudura. Kilangan ba palitan ko yung hop up rubber ko o seal ko lang talaga? May maikling gap kaya dun sa dulo ng air nozzle at inner barrel? Maay site o link ka bang pwedeng reference pano seal ang possible air leaks? Salamat
« Reply #17 Today at 13:46 »
tanggalin mo muna yung 3 screws sa sides ng forward receiver. then pwede mo nang hilain yung outer barrel assembly (kasama na dun yung hop-up chamber), wala nang lock yun, wire lang ang nka kabit. if you noticed, may spring dun sa chamber, itulak mo siya den twist mo (clockwise or counter, di ko maalala) pwede mo na hilain ang hop-up chamber kasama ang inner barrel ;D
now let's go to the gearbox. basta's sure ka sa shimmings na free gumalaw ang gears and sa cylinder na walang leaks habang tinitulak ng piston ang piston head, ok na yun. minimal na ang leaks dun kung meron man. gamit ka nga pala ng nozzle na same ng length sa original nozzle.
our concern now would be the air coming out of the nozzle. buo yung hangin from nozzle pero kumakalat cya pagdating sa hop-up chamber dahil maraming mga gaps. instead na sa bala ang concentration nya, kumakalat siya sa mga gaps.
what i did was, may sinira akong isang hop-up chamber ng AK47(courtesy of Arbab, hehe). minodify ko & dinugtong sa G36 chamber and binalot ko lahat ng possible escapes ng hangin. hehe.. the objective is to fill in all the gaps para sa bala ang concentration ng hangin.
no need to change the hop-up bucking, unless you want to install S140 spring and higher. otherwise, the stock rubber would do.
di ko na try maghanap ng sites about G36. basta's binaklas ko na lang cya & pinag aralan kung paano pagalingin ang nag iisang bangski ko at that time. hehe. ;D
« Last Edit: Today at 16:26 by TiBor »
« Reply #18 Today at 14:00 »
copy sir, salamat sa advice. Try ko mamaya pag uwi, bili na rin ako ng white tape na gamit pagdugtong ng tubo sa tubig. Parang yun yung nakita ko ginamit pang seal dun dati sa isang g36cko sa pinas. Dito kasi ako na nag kusang nag upgrade, more ontrial and error, tapos expert suggestions na rin gaaling sa inyo. Salamat nga pala uli sir tibor, Ronald nga pala (ICECUBE) commandos-abudhabi. Share ko uli dito kung ano progress tapos kung paglaruan uli yung bengski ko.
« Reply #19 Today at 16:23 »
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k. feel free to inquire sir IceCube. basta't kaya sa utak namin, try namin i-give ang the best advice ;D
keep posted sir..
« Reply #20 Today at 19:21 »
pag di mo pa rin kinaya sir, baba kana dito sa dubai at i pa bengskismith mo na sa ARMAS
k. feel free to inquire sir IceCube. basta't kaya sa utak namin, try namin i-give ang the best advice ;D
keep posted sir..
« Reply #20 Today at 19:21 »
pag di mo pa rin kinaya sir, baba kana dito sa dubai at i pa bengskismith mo na sa ARMAS